[Dhiahamara]Shadow of War's meeting with Trigiel <Private>

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Post Fecta Trigiel » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:23 pm
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"I actually have no idea what humans eat. Something with meat, vegetables and water right?

Why do you had to each awful sludge in order to become a traveller? Is that some kind of ritual of passage?"
Post Shadow of War » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:23 pm
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"No nothing like that. Back then everything was of an experimental nature. No one had ever done what we planned to do before that. The sludge is a way to prepare the brain for the transfer, get it ready to run on a different energy source.

How do Teprogrenaian cyborgs supply energy to their biological parts?"
Post Fecta Trigiel » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:46 pm
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"The details depends on the individual, but in general energy is injected into the bloodstream, or it's equivalent, making the body run on its original system, but with a different way to energize the blood.

In my case, I run on a special organic liquid. Where normally my intestines would suck energy out of my food and let it be adsorbed by my blood, my liquid now gets its energy from a special reciprocity condenser. I still have my lungs so they oxidise the liquid. The parts of my brains which are specialised in keeping track my organic household and energy systems are now coupled to the condenser, making sure I won't get too much or not enough food.

As my brains are moved close to my lungs, the whole system basically fits in my chest, making it very energy efficient.

Do you have more interesting rooms? I guess I couldn't see any of your more vital chambers? I would very much like to see the systems to make a 15 km giant cyborg actually work in person."

((OOC: wow, I just had a moment of utterly dumbness and couldn't find any of the words I was looking for o.O))
Post Shadow of War » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:21 pm
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"Unfortunately I use a lot of prototypes. All of them have a confidentiality agreement that prevents me from showing them to anyone.

But I do have some other interesting machinery I could show you. It will be a bit of a walk though."

Shadow guided Trigiel through his corridors. Each one was the same doorless corridor, where sometimes a wall opened to reveal an elevator.

If Trigiel walked at normal speed it would take over an hour.

((OOC: We can either fill the hour in with a short conversation or you can skip it by having Trigiel do some Force/cyborg speed thingy.))
Post Fecta Trigiel » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:54 pm
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((OOC: Trigiel is in no hurry, let's make it an plot hour with short conversation :).))

"I understand that you cannot show everything. But I am interested in what you are able to show." Trigiel calmly walked the strange doorless corridors, definitely not in a hurry. "Why are all the hallways so the same with no visual doors.

I understand that rarely somebody will come here, but why hide all the doors? That seems like a lot of effort for no purpose."
Post Shadow of War » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:30 pm
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"It's a design I borrowed from the Colonial Navy. The idea is to confuse and trap any intruders in case an enemy tries to board. Crew and other friendly personnel would have doors and routes highlighted in their ocular implant.

The doors only open if the correct code is sent to them or by central control. In this case that would be me. Do Teprogrenaians make implants that look like natural biological parts?"
Post Fecta Trigiel » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:46 am
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"Barely, although we are quite capable of producing natural-looking implants, we have chosen not to do so. We simply find it too expensive and a waste of effort to make nice-looking parts, when a basic design covers the same function for a quarter of the price. Natural-looking implants are therefore not covered by our basic medical healthcare.

Some people choose to keep their original looking self, but those are not with many, and they have to cover the expenses themselves.

Are all Astrian males forced to join the military? So far all Astrian males I have talked to either are coming from the military, or have military bounds in some ways."
Post Shadow of War » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:58 pm
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"Then you probably haven't met a lot of Astrian men. No one is forced into military service or any kind of specific work for that matter. At least not by the government. There are a lot of people that never come in contact with the military.

But generally speaking, a lot of Astrians do get involved with them. The reason for that is simple. The military offers a large variety of scholarship programs and they're always looking personnel, so you're pretty much guaranteed a job. It's also considered a good career move. Take for example a logistical company, they'll jump at the chance to get someone who's been a quartermaster for a year.

Is it really that expensive to make natural looking implants? I mean sure artificial skin is expensive, but an arm or a leg? You make it sound like you just give them a pair of tubes with a hinge in the middle. Especially if you're just using it to heal an injury or cure something, wouldn't you want it to blend in?"
Post Fecta Trigiel » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:01 pm
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"No, I haven't met a lot of Astrian men indeed, now I think of it, I've only talked to you and Nathan, the Jedi padawan. But I've also heard of the Lord-Master who is of military background as well as far I know.

Why is the military offering scholarship programs? Wouldn't it be more logical for the military to focus on the military and let scholarship programs be sponsored directly via the government?

Of course it is expensive to make natural looking parts. Not only on the producing side, but also on maintainability, ease of repairs and staying clean.

And besides, why would you want to let it blend in?"
Post Shadow of War » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:55 pm
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Shadow laughed, as if Trigiel said something funny. "The Lord-Master is a lot of things. Military isn't one of them. Never was either.

Nathan saw it as his duty to join the Marines. Ever since he became a full cyborg, he always wanted to protect the people he cared about. But I'm getting off topic."

It seemed Shadow knew Nathan.

"Logical maybe, but not practical. Costs for subfaction governments aside, the military requires a few years of service in exchange for the scholarship. It's more a way of recruitment to the military. Most people aren't jumping at the chance to risk their lives. If they can gain something from it however, it becomes worthy of consideration. And sometimes it turns into a career. Not to mention the experience you can gain working for them a few years. It's a win-win scenario, at least in concept.

You said Teprogrenaians use cybernetics as medical treatment correct? Would you really want to be reminded of that terrible painful injury every time you look at your leg? Or the person you lost? Or that one terrible sickness that ruined your life? Change isn't always good, if you let cybernetics blend in seamlessly it becomes easier to forget and easier to bare. The body may just be a machine. But the mind is still an indispensable part of that machine. What affects one will always affect the other."
Post Fecta Trigiel » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:02 am
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"The Lord-Master is not of military background?" Trigiel replied a little surprised, "than I have misunderstood his origins. Well I can't know everything about every world leader, now can I?

More importantly, is protecting their homeworld and their people not enough motivation for your, the Astrian, people? I mean within the Consensus is already talk that Teprogrenaians want a second military fleet and standing armies. A lot of our, the Teprogrenaian, people are flocking to join the military and do their part to ensure the safety and continuity of our race." It was almost fanatical the way Trigiel spoke about the enthusiasm of Teprogrenaians wanting to join the military.

"Yes, we use cybernetics as medical treatments. And yes, we do want to be reminded by the cause what brought us grief. It is a reminder that you are lucky to be alive, and that a bad accident can open up new possibilities. In my case, it is a reminder of the stupidity of people, and that the optimal response to a situation only is optimal when all involved actually goes along with the plan. Besides, now I can do this:" Trigiel extended and retracted all his headflaps, making a silly flapping noise.

"By the way, how far is it to the machinery you wanted to show?"

((OOC: I think we can let the conversation go at plot speed. Roleplaying an hour of conversation can be a little overdone :P))
Post Shadow of War » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:48 pm
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((OOC: I'll have you arrive in my next post.))

"It's not that far any more.

It's not that people don't want to protect their home, it's more that people don't want to risk their lives for strangers. Besides you don't need to be part of the military to help protect your home. Law enforcement, the judicial system and a lot of businesses all contribute to that goal. And they are just as necessary as the military, possibly even more necessary. A lot safer too."

Shadow paused for a good while. When he spoke again his voice had a serious tone, with a barely noticeable hint of sadness in it.

"You've never lost someone close to you, have you Mister Trigiel? Or the burden of a weak and sickly body? Besides luck doesn't exist. If you survive an something that could have killed you, it's because you earned it. You don't need a reminder for the stupidity of most people, they remind you of it often enough." The last sentence was in a joking tone.
Post Fecta Trigiel » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:23 pm
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"How is joining the military risking your life for strangers? I mean, of course the military fleets will only be used to protect your, the Astrian, kin."

When Shadow of War asked about Trigiels loss, the Jedi's expression turned slightly grim. His headflaps hung a little and his headlight darkened.

"Well, I wasn't always a cyborg, and I did lost a good colleague. Before my talent in the force was discovered, I was a pilot in the Teprogrenaian military, which by the way, was not that impressive during those days." Trigiel started to explain.

"During a flight exercise, I crashed into my colleague. It was stupid, since he took an evasive manoeuvre the wrong way. Of course, he was correct according to protocol, but we cannot expect our enemies to know and follow our protocols, and in the situation, making my manoeuvre would result in the most optimal result for the both of us.

The rescue and medical team were able to safe me, but my colleague died in the accident. And since then I am a Fecta."
Post Shadow of War » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:47 am
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"There are over four billion Astrians, it's not possible to know them all. Surely you consider someone you have never met and do not know a stranger? And generally speaking the ACA will help it's allies if necessary." Shadow replied.

"I see. I'm sorry for your loss."

As Trigiel was rounded a corner he hit, what seemed like, a dead end. "Oh, sorry. You'll need to cycle through a few airlocks." As Shadow said that the wall that ended the corridor started to move. Compared to the other doors Trigiel had passed through this one moved rather slow. Once it was about halfway open it became clear why. From what Trigiel could see the door was about half a metre of solid armoured durasteel. On the other side was another door. Two warning signs decorated the wall, one of which was an airlock warning. This indicated the small room created by the doors was an airlock. The other was a radiation warning. This wasn't strange, space was filled with radiation, some factions chose to warn for that.

As the first door closed behind Trigiel, a hiss could be heard that indicated the door was sealed. Orange warning lights started blinking and Trigiel registered a small increase in air pressure. The second door started to open, this one moving even slower then the first. As it opened Trigiel could see it was over a metre thick. It didn't look like it was made of durasteel. The door seemed to be made of two layers. The first layer made most of the door. Even with his mechanical engineering skills Trigiel couldn't recognise the material. The second layer, that was much thinner, was more easy to recognise. It was a material commonly used as radiation shielding in nuclear reactors. The next airlock had a third warning sign for high intensity gamma rays.

After passing through another airlock with another door like the second, two other warning sign was added. This time it was for neutron radiation and extremely intense light.

Past the next door was a small retracting ramp about half a metre from another door. From the shape of the walls that extended from the door it was a spherical room inside another spherical room. Different kinds of cables ran to points on the inner room. The warning signs here were those normally seen on the inner most maintenance access areas of a nuclear reactor. The final door on the other side of the ramp swung open outwards.

Sunlight reflected from all around. The inside of the sphere was covered in hexagonal mirrors, all but on side. It was open to the outside, like the top had been chopped off. The sphere was about 15 metres in diameter. On the edge of the opening was a rail, with two large boxes on opposite sides. From the discolouring, soot and small deformations on the material of the boxes, Trigiel could determine the boxes had come into contact with ultra-high temperatures. Trigiel couldn't actually step into the area but from the door opening he could see most of it.
Post Fecta Trigiel » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:39 pm
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While Trigiel goes through the airlock sequence, he tells: “Even if you don’t know your people personally, they are not complete strangers right? You are from the same species, you know their culture. We Teprogrenaians are willing to sacrifice our lives if it means a continued existence and better future for our kind.”

When he was at the final door, the jedi looked around in the opening: “I guess you cannot tell me what that last door was made of, can you? I couldn’t place the main material.

What is this place? It looks like some sort of solar power generator. But those are highly outdated since the advancement of fission reactors and hypermatter annihilators.”
Post Shadow of War » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:13 pm
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"The door is made from Adaptive Material Energy Plate, or AMEP. An advanced type of armour. My outer hull is made from the same material, three metres of AMEP armour plating. When a current is run through the material it's normal crystal structure changes by forming molecular bonds, it basically turns into a single macro molecule. That makes for a very effective defence. The Navy uses it too.

As for this area, technically you could argue it's a solar power generator. But a nuclear fusion reactor would be a more accurate comparison. Not that this actually generates power I can use myself. This is actually one of my main cannons.

But don't fission reactors have low safety ratings? Not to mention the radioactive waste. Do the Teprogrenaians still use that?"
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Post Fecta Trigiel » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:08 pm
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"So this 15 meter chamber is actually a main cannon?" Trigiel mentioned when he looked into the chamber. "I confess, I don't really understand how it works, but why aren't you officially a military vessel again?." Trigiel asked rhetorically.

"Modern fission reactors are save and cheap to use, so depending on the ship requirements they are one of the used reactor cores in all kind of space vessels, especially sublight drives are often powered by fission drives."

((OOC: To prevent pointless discussion, I got the fission reactor from Wookieepedia as a viable reactor core for star ships. Also, you wiki page say 3 meter thick armour hull ;),))
Post Shadow of War » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:44 pm
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"It's actually quite simple. A nuclear explosion is generated inside this chamber by putting a superheated Deuterium-Tritium plasma, inside an electromagnetic field, under extreme pressure. The resulting nuclear fusion that occurs generates light, heat and radiation. All three of those are reflected by the special mirrors you see on the inside of the chamber. That raises the rate at which the fusion occurs. Then the EM-field that keeps the chamber closed is released. Suddenly having a release for all that energy confined within, the plasma shoots out at near light speed. Doing large amounts of damage to anything it hits within a certain range.

To be fair most military vessels have a lot more guns then I do. My hull is designed with defence in mind not offence."
Post Fecta Trigiel » Wed May 13, 2015 10:17 am
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“I think it is time we of the Consensus military start to plate our ships with mirrors.” Trigiel joked.

“But more seriously, if your hull is designed with defence in mind, then you are apparently still designed for a fight. Given your size, that is like saying ‘I don’t put all my weight on my foot while stepping on ants.’ Or ‘my neighbour has more feet to step on more ants at the same time, so he is the real ant killer here’. Point is that even though your prime goal might not be that of a war ship, you can still be used as a formidable one. So anything of denying your potential role in a war is either hypocrisy, naivety or a very sad attempt to mislead. In any case, it does not matter much. We of the Consensus are aware of you, any Union member should be aware of you, so the only difference it makes is how you are perceived by the others on a personal note. Or like how my Masters would say it: ‘you should meditate on that.’” The last part Trigiel said with a theatrical deep voice.

“Shadow of War, thank you for the tour, it is most interesting but I believe it is time for me to return to my duties. Can you show me the way out?”

((OOC: I think it is time to wrap-up this thread :).))
Post Shadow of War » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:38 pm
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"You may be right. For an outsider I may be a warship. However I never have, nor ever will, consider myself a warship. I spend a lot of time outside Union space. I need to be able to survive thousands of lightyears from friendly territory, that requires combat systems."

Shadow told Trigiel as he guided him out. Once the jedi was outside on the platform Shadow started powering his flight systems. A powerful, deep hum emanated from him.

"It has been a pleasure, mister Trigiel. Please relay my gratitude to the Teprogrenaian government. Travel safely."

Having cleared his take off and flightpath out of the system with space traffic control, his engines lifted the massive cyborg off the ground with a deafening roar. Slipping into hyperspace, he left the Parumecaetes system. Wandering the stars to wherever the interstellar winds carried him.

((OOC: And that's a wrap.))
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