Selfish IP Nomination: Very active Chancellor

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Hi all,

While changing all the small details for the new electoral period, I updated the Electoral Period 201-220 story and handed out the traditional Chancellor and Minister (:ip). As I did that, I realized that this has been a very active period.


The Influence rules state that being chancellor gains you 10 (:ip), with the note that "you may receive more or less depending on your activity level."

I feel that Nehket Aeka has been much more active in the past period than is the norm for PC chancellors. This is in large part due to the activity surrounding the Slavery and Sentient Rights discussion, which she diligently continued.

I would like to petition for an additional amount of 3 (:ip) because of the increased activity level of Nehket Aeka as chancellor.

A counter-argument would be: "But you're already getting additional (:ip) from the discussion once the story pages have been written." This is true, and I certainly expect to receive (:ip) from my participation in that discussion -- but that does not take away the fact that Aeka has been very busy chancelloring in those discussion as well by leading the discussion through several phases.
Post Fedor » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:17 pm
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I find this agreeable.
Post Elmer » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:45 pm
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me too
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Post Chriz » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:36 pm
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I believe that the stories that you talk about in your counter argument should give the (:ip) .

In my opinion this was not really a very active period. I believe our view of active has been biased due to the fact that the previous periods were very inactive...
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Post Brend » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:33 pm
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@Chriz: I think it wasn't a very active period in your opinion because you yourself weren't very active... However, I do agree that the baseline activity is not very high, but we have never reduced the 10 (:ip) for low activity, so it appears that the baseline is worth 10, which would make this more than baseline, i.e. higher activity.

Either way, at the moment the tally is: 2 in favour, 1 against. I'm not saying that this is a simple vote, but I do think we need more opionions...

Others?
Post Dragonmaster352 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:16 pm
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I'm not directly against you receiving extra (:ip), however I think 3 (:ip) is a bit much. Could you clarify what made you say 3 (:ip)?

If it's for 3 stories then I suggest a lower amount of (:ip). The reason is fairness, I believe it to be unfair for anyone to get basically double (:ip) for political roleplay just because they are the chancellor. I think even 50% more is steep if only the chancellor gets it. 50% more if participating ministers also get that would be more acceptable. Any such (:ip) bonuses should be based on the participated stories, not any baseline.

Also if 3 (:ip) was just a random number you find acceptable, then my answer is no. No random bonuses. Period.
Post Brend » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:41 pm
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The reasoning behind the amount is that I did less then "Organize a Conference" (which is set at 5 (:ip)), though it does have some of the same qualities -- keeping the discussion going, focussing on the topic and issues at hand, etc., and that it was definitely more effort than mere "Active participation in senate discussions" (which is set at 2 (:ip)). Hence, 3 (:ip), which is seems reasonable for "slightly more effort than only participating".

I'm fine with giving some (:ip) to the PC ministers as well, provided they also have to explain how they were more active, just like I am doing.


That said, I'm also fine with not getting any additional (:ip), since at least Chriz is against it, and given your overly authoritative tone in the last sentence you also appear not to like it.
Post Mercury » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:15 pm
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I do think an extra reward is appropriate. There has been extra activity and this ought to be rewarded, if for no other reason than to encourage additional activity. I also think the events were handled quite professionally despite having ones own faction involved in it. 3 (:ip) seems reasonable for this.
Post Dragonmaster352 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:36 pm
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Brend wrote:That said, I'm also fine with not getting any additional (:ip), since at least Chriz is against it, and given your overly authoritative tone in the last sentence you also appear not to like it.


Actually under that reasoning I'm ok with it. I just wanted to make sure this amount wasn't baseless. I just think we should avoid giving people random rewards for things, even if they deserve a reward.

Brend wrote:I'm fine with giving some (:ip) to the PC ministers as well, provided they also have to explain how they were more active, just like I am doing.


That goes without saying. :D

With all that said, perhaps it would be a good idea to make a guideline to when a bonus is applicable and how much that bonus should be? For future reference?
Post Chriz » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:41 pm
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So under this reasoning how much (:ip) does Ardios Eldrilith get for the Trade hub ordeal?
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Post Mercury » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:47 pm
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Chriz, how much extra (:ip) do you believe you should get and why?
Post Brend » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:17 am
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(With four people in agreement on it, I have updated the story page with +3 (:ip) for the Veolians.)

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