[ Mail ] To Merchant Aosen, Dana Lantria Asillion and Lord Leandres II Lafrioye: Proposal to join forces in the creation of Rare Elements and Exotic Matter Devices Corporations

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Dear partners,

Since the rare elements are the only raw material left that has not been exploited by corporations yet we believe it is time to start constructing them in the near future. We are looking for your worlds to partner in this endeavor. The Praetorian Empire is aware that we are the largest stakeholder in the rare elements business and therefore an investment from our side in the creation of your corporation can be discussed.

The Praetorian Empire intends to continue with the corporating of the Exotic matter devices industry after the rare elements increase is sucessful.

Please tell us whether your faction is interested in joining us or not.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:30 pm
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Dear Miss Ferumdra,

Unfortunately, any endeavour to incorporate (:rares) and (:emds) in the Novalia System is currently far to expensive. Requiring either terraformation to be done or megadome cities to be constructed. Neither of which the Bluethread Financial Group will have funds available for anywhere in the foreseeable future. Additionally we do not currently have sufficient funds available to aid in funding.

Regretfully, the Bluethread Financial Group will not be participating in the creation of these corporations.

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Dana Asillion
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Post Aosen » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:59 am
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Dear Zatiri Ferumdra,

The Hiocan Society is very interested in corporations of (:rares) and (:emds). On Hio we have already quite some facilities which we would like to specialize.

Currently we are very busy with the Terraformation project on Ah'rak so our cash flow is very limited. But I think we will find a way in which we can make a deal as we have a long relationship with Praetorian Empire.

Yours sincerely,

Merchant Aosen of the Trade Office of the Hiocan Society
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:35 pm
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Dear Merchant Aosen,

We believe that for now we are the only partners in the (:rares) industry. The Praetorian Empire is willing and able to construct two (:rares) corporation if the Hiocan Society is willing to create one as well. Could you give us an indication of the time it takes for your faction to construct a (:rares) corporation? For us the first corporation will be 7000 (:tax) and the second 16000 (:tax), so with 1000 (:tax) per turn we will still need at least 20 (:turns) to complete them.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Aosen » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:37 pm
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Dear Zatiri Ferumdra,

The Hiocan Society has already two (:metals) related corporations. This will become our third corporation and cost us 7000 (:tax) to set-up. With our current tax flow it will also takes us 20 (:turn). We are now upgrading a few zones on Hio to increase our production and income and would like to finish this first. The start of the construction of a new Headquarter can start in 300 (:turn).

Furthermore, it might be interesting to cluster our current and future (:rares) related corporations in and agglomeration.

Merchant Aosen of the Trade Office of the Hiocan Society
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:53 pm
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Dear Merchant Aosen,

We understand that your third corporation will cost 7000 (:tax). We get that you need about 20 (:turns) to build your corporate headquarters on your own. However we are completely flabbergasted by the fact that you want to wait another 100 (:turns) to corporate (:rares). The market has already been flooded with corporations of any other raw material. Without the required (:rares) there will be a shortage of (:healthcare) and (:research) soon.

We believe it is more reasonable to finish the construction of the (:rares) corporations in (:turn) 260. This still gives your faction ample time to construct some other zones and build the corporation. We will use this time to construct two (:rares) corporations in the Praetorian Empire.

Although we understand your suggestion to form a conglomerate, we believe it is too soon to talk about such things if we don't have a completion date yet.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Aosen » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:21 pm
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Dear Zatiri Ferumdra,

My apologies it seems that an error was made with the turn, it should be 230 (:turn).

Merchant Aosen of the Trade Office of the Hiocan Society
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:04 pm
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Dear Miss Ferumdra,

The Bluethread Financial Group has taken another look at your proposal to start a rare elements corporation and have decided we are interested after all.

As I told you in my last message, in order to create such a corporation we need to terraform Caosina. The Bluethread Group does not have sufficient funds to do this. If you are willing to pay for the terraformation of Caosina, however, we can join this effort.

The terraformation costs should be within reasonable rates, as Caosina already has a type 2 atmosphere with natural life.

We would like to arrange a meeting so we can discuss zone exchange terms and completion dates.

Regards,
Dana Asillion
Chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:05 pm
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Dear Dana Asillion,

We appreciate it that your faction is giving this matter a second chance. However this terraformation project is no small favour you ask of us. Has your faction already requested quotes at terraformation suppliers to terraform Caosina?

We would like to know what the cost of this project would be before we could pledge such support. The Omnipotari Corporation believes that an investment of 2500 (:tax) into the Bluethread Financial Group would be reasonable to get things on their way.

We still have some time when it comes to the completion date, the Hiocan Society requires time as well.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Aosen » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:57 pm
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Dear Zatiri Ferumdra,

Our production improvement on Hio is going faster than expected and we can start in 228 (:turn) with the construction of a new (:rares) corporation. We will start with a payment of 350 (:tax) / (:turn) so the project will be finished in 20 (:turn).
We will match and adjust this schedule depend on the formation of the other (:rares) corporations.

Merchant Aosen of the Trade Office of the Hiocan Society
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Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:11 pm
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((OOC: I am guessing you mean 228 based on the previous typo you made and corrected. Since you said 230 last time. Can you clarify this?))
Post Aosen » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:40 pm
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((OOC: Yes this should be 228 turn. I am so good in making typo's :S.))
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:53 am
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Dear Dana Asillion,

Due to the fact that we have our (:rares) corporation ready for completion already we would like to finish these negotiations as soon as possible. I will have to be blunt with you and tell you that if we can not come to an agreement the Omnipotari Corporation will create a second (:rares) corporation. This is due to the fact that corporating the (:rares) is too important to the Praetorian Empire to fail and your faction responded in a later phase when our corporation already had a starting strategy planned out.

However having said this we see merrit in cooperation with your faction and want to make this deal work for the benefit of the Union.
With the large amounts of (:rares) that we want to corporate the Omnipotari Corporation requires at least 10 zone rights and therefor we believe not limiting the zone rights for this corporation would be wise.

If your faction is still serious about the participation and is capable of completing the corporation in (:turn) 248 we are willing to have fast negotiations about the finances to make sure we are on the same page. We could loan you some (:tax) using our (:credits) if speed would be a factor. When we have done these negotiations we believe it is best to inform the Hiocans and continue together with them about the other variables.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:50 pm
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Dear Miss Ferumdra,

The Bluethread Financial Group believes an agreement is possible. By our estimates it should be possible to complete a headquarters in (:turn) 248

We have received a quotation for the terraformation of Caosina. This would cost 5000 (:tax). We would like the Omnipotari Corporation to cover these costs.

I can understand that, with the amount of zone rights you want, you do not wish to limit these zone rights. Unfortunately, I fail to see any merit for the Bluethread Group in this. I will agree to start with an exchange of 3 zone rights and a set price of 500 (:tax) per zone right for any further zone rights.

Now I understand you may be inclined to reject this proposal, but let me me give you a quick cost projection. By my estimates creating a second (:rares) corporation yourself would require 16000 (:tax). However, if you agree to my proposal then your costs, for ten zone rights, would be as following: 5000 + 500 * 7 = 8500 (:tax). I have disregarded specialization costs as those need to be paid regardless. As you can see this would be just over half the cost of creating a second corporation yourself.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this.

Regards,
Dana Asillion
Chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:11 pm
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Dear Dana Asillion,

The Omnipotari Corporation is willing to invest a total of 7500 (:tax) for 12 zone rights, with the completion of your headquarters in (:turn) 248. Unfortunately this will be as high as we can go unless your faction is capable of offering more that is of value to us.

The income from the corporation itself is worth mentioning and gives us another reason why the cost of 16000 (:tax) is still worth paying. The Praetorian Empire controls the largest part of the (:rares) industry and the Emperor is willing to invest to consolidate a monopoly.

If your faction asks for such a large bribe when it comes to the (:emds) Corporation as well we believe we have a serious problem in the future. However a positive attitude on this matter might provide a small shift in opinion for us on this matter.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:58 pm
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Dear Miss Ferumdra,

Before I can accept anything I would need to know how many zone rights the Bluethread Financial Group would receive from the Omnipotari Corporation and the Hiocans.

We would be content with 2 zone rights from you and 2 from the Hiocans.

I would also like to negotiate initial exchanges of specialized goods to catch temporary losses in productivity in the first two turns of the corporations establishment.

Regards,
Dana Asillion
Chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:12 pm
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Dear Dana Asillion,

I can only answer this from the view of the Omnipotari Corporation. We are willing to exchange zone rights with your faction. We should discuss this with the Hiocan Society as well. However I am also willing to accept a deal where we do not limit zone rights at all under the proposed investment scenario. We believe this is the most easy option to handle this situation with the Hiocan Society as well. Of course we can agree that when other factions want (:rares) corporated that we will only sell to them for at least 500 (:tax) per zone right, since they have not invested in the corporations.

Furthermore the initial exchange of goods would be wise to minimize the damage to all our economies. We see no problem in this matter with the enormous cargo capacity available in Praetorian Empire.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:30 pm
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Dear Mister Aosen,

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dana Lantria Asillion. I am the chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group, seated in the Astrian Colonial Authority. I am contacting you to inform you the Bluethread Group is considering to join the (:rares) corporate venture started by miss Zatiri Ferumdra.

I would also like to negotiate an initial exchange of zone rights and a short term exchange of specialized (:rares) in order to catch the initial reduced production.

I propose we start with an initial exchange of 2 specialization rights and that any additional zone rights can be purchased after that.

If you would be so kind to inform me of your projection of the production of specialized (:rares) after you complete you corporate headquarters, I can calculate how much we needs to be shipped in the first two turns.

Regards,
Dana Asillion
Chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:52 pm
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Dear Merchant Aosen,

It currently looks like the Bluethread Financial Group is willing to join in our effort to start (:rares) Corporations. We should look into getting the matter of zone rights out of the way as soon as possible. We believe it is best to not limit zone rights to make sure that we can use the (:rares) to full potential and to make sure we can also continue with the (:emds) as an effective conglomorate.

Furthermore the initial product swap should not be much of an issue with the large amounts of trade capacity that our factions have.

It is excellent to hear that the Hiocan economy is progressing. We should focus on the completion of the corporations in (:turn) 248.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Aosen » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:13 am
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Dear Zatiri Ferumdra,

We are glad the another faction is joining us for the (:rares) corporation. Miss Dana Asillion has contacted us an proposed a 2 zone exchange and after that a purchase of zone. For The Hiocan Society currently 2 zone rights is sufficient, but we can understand that you need more for big facilities.

We also see no problem in the initial swap as we have a long term deal with the Preatorian Empire for buying (:mtcf).

Your sincerly,

Merchant Aosen of the Trade Office of the Hiocan Society
Post Aosen » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:23 am
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Dear Miss Dana Asillion,

We are glad the Bluethread Financial Group is joining us for the (:rares) corporation. For the Hiocan Society currently 2 zone rights is sufficient, but we do not think this will be enough for the Preatorian Empire as they have big facilities. Let's not set a limit as our economies will continue to grow.

The first production of specialized goods would be 430 specialized (:rares). We have sufficient trade capacity on our ships, we could also take your good to the Preatorian Empire.

Your sincerely,

Merchant Aosen of the Trade Office of the Hiocan Society
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:31 pm
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Dear Merchant Aosen,

We would like to exchange 12 zone rights to make sure that we have enough (:rares). This will give us enough zone rights for the foreseeable future. In return for this we offer you the option to move your headquarters to Tiamat to maximize your corporate income.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:04 pm
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Dear Mister Aosen,

The Bluethread Group is well aware two zone rights is insufficient for the Omnipotari Corporation. However, I have the obligation to ensure that such a large investment turns a profit.

We are willing to revise our position if you are willing to agree to the following offer.

The Bluethread Group is willing to buy 50% of the (:rares) corporation you are creating for 3500 (:tax). In exchange for this investment we and as partial owners we would be entitled to:
  • 50% of corporate (:tax) income (rounded in favour of the Hiocan Society)
  • The selling of specialization rights to third parties

I am sure you can see the benefit in this offer. It should reduce the strain on your economy and the Praetorians will get the unlimited zone rights they want. We will all profit from this.

Regards,
Dana Asillion
Chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group
Post Dana Lantria Asillion » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:19 pm
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Dear Miss Ferumdra,

After some deliberation the Bluethread Group is willing to accept your offer of 7500 (:tax) and are willing to agree not to limit the specialization rights between the Praetorian Empire, the Hiocan Society and the Bluethread Financial Group. However, I must pose the following conditions:

  • Both the Hiocan Society and the Bluethread Financial Group are allowed to move the Corporate HQ of their (:rares) corporation to the Lumo Duo System.
  • The Bluethread Financial Group is allowed to sell specialization rights of the (:rares) corporation that is created by the Omnipotari Corporation and the Praetorian Empire.

I believe these conditions to be reasonable considering the difference in the amount of zones we intend to specialize.

Regards,
Dana Asillion
Chairwoman of the Bluethread Financial Group
Post Zatiri Ferumdra » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:52 am
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Dear Dana Asillion,

We thank you for reconsidering our offer, however we are already practically paying your complete Corporation.

Unfortunately we can not comply with your second condition. We can not give you the permission to sell zone rights of our Corporations to third parties. If your faction has a buyer lined up will we consider the option and even give you a reseller fee but the Omnipotari Corporation controls the decision to sell to other factions.

Fortunately we are able to give you the first condition. We will allow both of your factions to move your headquarters to Tiamat in the Lumo Duo System if we can finalize this deal.

Greetings,
Zatiri Ferumdra
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