IO Protocol Holonet Relays and the use of Holonet Repeaters
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IO Protocol Holonet Relays and the use of Holonet Repeaters
Brend » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:31 pm
I have a question. As far as I know, the Holonet Repeaters technology can not be applied for another faction without transferring the technology to them.
However the IO Protocol claims that their Holonet Relay 1 (in Sector 15 -4) is 'Supported by the Sundarian Federation Holonet Relay'? As they Sundarian Federation does not own this relay, the Holonet Repeater technology can not be applied to it.
The technoloy itself states that: "A world with the Holonet Repeaters technology is allowed to upgrade Holonet Relay Stations, instead of constructing new ones in the same sector." Which clearly indicates that you can not put multiple relays in the same sector under the 'upkeep umbrella' of another relay.
I think that either:
a) The IO Protocol has to pay upkeep, or
b) What was intended here is the increase of the Sundarian Relay in the same sector, with some kind of sharing treaty?
However the IO Protocol claims that their Holonet Relay 1 (in Sector 15 -4) is 'Supported by the Sundarian Federation Holonet Relay'? As they Sundarian Federation does not own this relay, the Holonet Repeater technology can not be applied to it.
The technoloy itself states that: "A world with the Holonet Repeaters technology is allowed to upgrade Holonet Relay Stations, instead of constructing new ones in the same sector." Which clearly indicates that you can not put multiple relays in the same sector under the 'upkeep umbrella' of another relay.
I think that either:
a) The IO Protocol has to pay upkeep, or
b) What was intended here is the increase of the Sundarian Relay in the same sector, with some kind of sharing treaty?
Mercury » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 pm
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Mercury - Storyteller
B is the case here, but as I understand it the capacity is still mine. Amidoinitrite?
Brend » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:36 pm
No.
The Holonet Repeater technology only applies on upgrades to holonet relays. As you have a holonet relay in that sector, you have to pay upkeep as per the normal rules. The sundarians can only apply the technology to their own relay.
Whatever kind of deal you cut with the sundarians is up to you, but deploying your own relay means paying your own upkeep. If you want to have your own capacity (as in 'owned by you') you have to deploy your own relays. If you have a deal with the Sundarians that they allow you to use a slice of their bandwidth, that's fine -- but you don't own the relay in that case; they do.
The Holonet Repeater technology only applies on upgrades to holonet relays. As you have a holonet relay in that sector, you have to pay upkeep as per the normal rules. The sundarians can only apply the technology to their own relay.
Whatever kind of deal you cut with the sundarians is up to you, but deploying your own relay means paying your own upkeep. If you want to have your own capacity (as in 'owned by you') you have to deploy your own relays. If you have a deal with the Sundarians that they allow you to use a slice of their bandwidth, that's fine -- but you don't own the relay in that case; they do.
Mercury » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:38 pm
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Mercury - Storyteller
Its not supposed to be a separate relay I think, but an upgrade on the Sundarian relay which is mine. Gerben, can you clarify the situation?
Brend » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:40 pm
You can't really have a 'separate' upgrade. I'll wait for Gerben to shed some light on it before replying any further.
(EDIT: From the wiki history, it seems Gerben also increased his relay in 15 -4 with 500, in turn 83. Maybe that is this 'upgrade' and there is some confusion? He notes that 500
of that relay is reserved for the IO Protocol, which seems odd if the IO Protocol also claims to have 500 deployed there.)
(EDIT: From the wiki history, it seems Gerben also increased his relay in 15 -4 with 500, in turn 83. Maybe that is this 'upgrade' and there is some confusion? He notes that 500
of that relay is reserved for the IO Protocol, which seems odd if the IO Protocol also claims to have 500 deployed there.)
Mercury » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:53 pm
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Mercury - Storyteller
Okay, there may be some confusion then and this is probably my fault, as I'm new to this. I'll await Gerben to tell me what should be done.
Gerben » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:00 am
That is indeed one and the same upgrade. The intention of our agreement was to ensure sufficient capacity for our information trade. To that end it has been agreed that 2 Sundarian arrays would be upgraded and that the bandwidth from those upgrades would reserved for IO use.
@Mercury, you don't have to note them or your bookkeeping, atleast not in a holonet datablocks. I would however keep track of your reserved capacity in some way.
@Mercury, you don't have to note them or your bookkeeping, atleast not in a holonet datablocks. I would however keep track of your reserved capacity in some way.
Brend » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:38 am
So, the IO Protocol realy should really not be there?
(Note: We might want to make some things like 'reserved bandwidth' a little more visible. If you know how, please tell me ^_^)
(Note: We might want to make some things like 'reserved bandwidth' a little more visible. If you know how, please tell me ^_^)
Gerben » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:47 am
Not as a separate relay, as this is merely a reserved bandwidth agreement similar to the one between the sundarian federation and the commonwealth @12 -7
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