Special Project proposal: Hyperspace Monitoring Station
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Hyperspace Monitoring Station
By installing a monitoring station with the necessary scanning arrays as a upgrade on a fleet zone your zone has increased Scanning range of +1
. This special project applies the Hyperspace Monitoring Station upgrade on a fleet zone which increases its Scanning range with +1
.Cost: 1000
+ 200
Prerequisites: Passive Hyperspace Monitoring
Player of the Praetorian Empire
Interesting idea. Two questions:
Why do you want this tech?
And how did you calculate the cost?
Why do you want this tech?
And how did you calculate the cost?
Because normally you can only see what happens in your own system.
I guesstimated it to be: the cost of a zone upgrade + half the relay nodes for a scanning fleet.
I guesstimated it to be: the cost of a zone upgrade + half the relay nodes for a scanning fleet.
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Dragonmaster352 - Storyteller
I think it needs to be a bit more expensive because it allows you to see what's going on 7
instead of just 1.
instead of just 1.The costs seem to be on the low side, this technology allows you to collapse the functionality of a scanning fleet (and associated costs such as the required Open Market zone support) into an already existing zone. This is a very nice discount. Based on the guidelines for return-on-investment, the cost should be higher than a normal scanning fleet (minus the scanning for sites capability's cost), as you basically safe yourself the construction of a Open Market Zone and a Scanning fleet.
I think that the whole scanning thing shouldn't be too cheap overall anyway, because it takes a lot of opportunity for storylines (and also: space is enormous.. scanning is not a very cheap thing).
I think that the whole scanning thing shouldn't be too cheap overall anyway, because it takes a lot of opportunity for storylines (and also: space is enormous.. scanning is not a very cheap thing).
Take into account the fact that the Survey fleet can actually move around, and in that way be outside of a systems influence of Hyperspace while doing their Passive Hyperspace Monitoring... This isn't just about getting higher statistics, it's also about what sounds feasible -- even though it is a science fiction setting ;)
In that case the monitoring station is probably build on top of the Holonet relay station that is located outside of the systems influence. This would mean that the station would be more expensive since it does not cost a zone or upgrade of it but it would maybe be more fitting.
Some pro's and cons that I could think of that influence the price.
Pro's
6 squares extra scanning range
No open market slot
Only requires holonet relay station
Con's
Not mobile
Requires the Passive hyperspace monitoring technology
Technology + Special project (high cost for each implementation)
I have discussed the ideas with Elmer and came to 2 possible solutions:
New Proposals:
Technology:
Project:
Alternative:
Some pro's and cons that I could think of that influence the price.
Pro's
6 squares extra scanning range
No open market slot
Only requires holonet relay station
Con's
Not mobile
Requires the Passive hyperspace monitoring technology
Technology + Special project (high cost for each implementation)
I have discussed the ideas with Elmer and came to 2 possible solutions:
- +1 scanning on your system using a combination of a holonet relay station upgrade and a fleet zone upgrade where the data is processed.
- Scanning stations that cost about 1/3 of a scanning fleet and scan 1

New Proposals:
Technology:
Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
After increasing the power input of a monitoring installation, extremely sensitive scanning technology and extensive calibration it is possible to monitor vast amounts of space from a stationary location.
This technology allows for the construction of Hyperspace Monitoring Station & Hyperspace Monitoring Grid.
Cost: 1500
+ 3 
Prerequisites: Passive Hyperspace Monitoring
After increasing the power input of a monitoring installation, extremely sensitive scanning technology and extensive calibration it is possible to monitor vast amounts of space from a stationary location.
This technology allows for the construction of Hyperspace Monitoring Station & Hyperspace Monitoring Grid.
Cost: 1500
+ 3 
Prerequisites: Passive Hyperspace Monitoring
Project:
Hyperspace Monitoring Station
By installing a monitoring station as a upgrade on a fleet zone with the necessary scanning arrays as a upgrade on a existing holonet relay station in the same sector your faction is capable of monitoring the surrounding
.
This special project applies the Hyperspace Monitoring Station upgrade on a fleet zone and improves a holonet relay station in the same sector with a scanning array which increases the scanning range of the sector with +1
.
Cost: 500
+ 400 
Prerequisites: Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
By installing a monitoring station as a upgrade on a fleet zone with the necessary scanning arrays as a upgrade on a existing holonet relay station in the same sector your faction is capable of monitoring the surrounding
.This special project applies the Hyperspace Monitoring Station upgrade on a fleet zone and improves a holonet relay station in the same sector with a scanning array which increases the scanning range of the sector with +1
.Cost: 500
+ 400 
Prerequisites: Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
Alternative:
Hyperspace Monitoring Grid
By installing a grid of multiple small scanning stations in a sector your faction is capable of monitoring the activity in the sector.
This special project creates a hyperspace monitoring grid in a sector providing your faction with Scanning in the
.
Cost: 250
+ 200 
Prerequisites: Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
By installing a grid of multiple small scanning stations in a sector your faction is capable of monitoring the activity in the sector.
This special project creates a hyperspace monitoring grid in a sector providing your faction with Scanning in the
.Cost: 250
+ 200 
Prerequisites: Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
Player of the Praetorian Empire
See Survey Fleets revamp for a related topic that needs discussion first.
Based on the survey fleet revamp a new proposal with calculations.
Every special product used is valuated at 4.5
and every product at 0.75
.
Scanning fleet: 100
+ 400
= 2250 
Passive Hyperspace monitoring share = 2000
/ 4 = 500 
Scanning fleet upgrade: (500
, 200
, 150
= 1325 
Upkeep cost for active scanning of surrounding 6 sectors ; 52 * 30
= 1560 
Open market fleet slot = 1500
Total military scanning fleet cost over 1 year = 7135
The current proposal uses a stationary military scanning grid in 1 sector.
Cost per Grid
should be about 7135 / 6 ~ 1200
Technology:
This technology allows for the construction of a Hyperspace Monitoring Grid.
Cost: 1000
+ 3 
Prerequisites: Passive Hyperspace Monitoring
Project:
This special project creates a hyperspace monitoring grid in a sector providing your faction with Scanning in the
.
Cost: 100
+ 100
+ 100
Prerequisites: Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
Every special product used is valuated at 4.5
and every product at 0.75
.Scanning fleet: 100
+ 400
= 2250 
Passive Hyperspace monitoring share = 2000
/ 4 = 500 
Scanning fleet upgrade: (500
, 200
, 150
= 1325 
Upkeep cost for active scanning of surrounding 6 sectors ; 52 * 30
= 1560 
Open market fleet slot = 1500

Total military scanning fleet cost over 1 year = 7135

The current proposal uses a stationary military scanning grid in 1 sector.
Cost per Grid
should be about 7135 / 6 ~ 1200
Technology:
Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
After increasing the power input of a monitoring installation, extremely sensitive scanning technology and extensive calibration it is possible to monitor vast amounts of space from a stationary location.This technology allows for the construction of a Hyperspace Monitoring Grid.
Cost: 1000
+ 3 
Prerequisites: Passive Hyperspace Monitoring
Project:
Hyperspace Monitoring Grid
By installing a grid of multiple small scanning stations in a sector your faction is capable of monitoring the activity in the sector.This special project creates a hyperspace monitoring grid in a sector providing your faction with Scanning in the
.Cost: 100
+ 100
+ 100
Prerequisites: Stationary Hyperspace Monitoring Installations
Player of the Praetorian Empire
The pricing seems logical, though as this is an advanced yet reduced version of the Survey Fleet scanning -- it is better because it will be cheaper, and it is worse because it can't move -- I think that the research might be a little more expensive: 2000
/ 4
for example.
/ 4
for example.First I thought why not looking at the cost of using non-upgraded fleets as well, after a quick calculation I saw that it is way to expensive to scan 3 zones with 3 fleets.
Now the cost in tax for 1 zone scanning = 2000
with this tech and 3750
for a scanning fleet. I agree with Brend, the tech can be 2000
. Then it is still cheaper but not nearly 2 times cheaper. :)
Overall the tech and its use is looking good.
For the Union it would cost 10 000
to have all the empty
around the bozzy spines scanned. Tech not included.
Now the cost in tax for 1 zone scanning = 2000
with this tech and 3750
for a scanning fleet. I agree with Brend, the tech can be 2000
. Then it is still cheaper but not nearly 2 times cheaper. :)Overall the tech and its use is looking good.
For the Union it would cost 10 000
to have all the empty
around the bozzy spines scanned. Tech not included.I will change the Technology to 2000
and 4
. If there are no objections I will but it on the wiki in a couple of days.
and 4
. If there are no objections I will but it on the wiki in a couple of days.Player of the Praetorian Empire
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Mercury - Storyteller
I don't object - this is basically what Brend asked for.
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